VENABLES OF KINDERTON
Many of the Cheshire gentry families have a connection with the Venables of Kinderton and they were the ancestors of many of the branches of the Legh and Leigh families through John Venables son of William de Venables and Agnes de Legh, who changed his name to Legh. This family came over from Normandy and are first recorded in England in 1086. Gilbert de Venables was one of the eight barons appointed by the Earl of Chester. The tree below is adapted from that in Ormerod volume 3 page 198 onwards.
- 1. Gilbert de Venables baron of Kynderton, died in reign of Henry II
- +Margery, dau of Walthew son of Wolfric, Lord of Hatton
- 2. Sir William de Venables, baron of Kynderton, 1188, lived until 1228.
- + wife's name not known. In addition to the eldest son Hugh there were: Robert de Venables, parson of Rosthorne, died 44 Hen III; William and Hamon.
- 3. Hugh de Venables, baron of Kinderton in the time of Roger Abbot of Chester, 1240-1249. Hugh married twice and his children are from his second wife.
- + 2nd wife Agnes dau of Ranulph de Oxton.
In addition to their heir Roger there was also daughters, Elizabeth and Beatrix, wife of Roger de Toft about 51 Hen III>
- 4. Sir Roger de Venables, baron of Kinderton, died about 1261
- + Alice dau of Alan de Peninton of Peninton Hall, Lancashire, about 1240. In addition to their heir, Sir William, this couple also had: Rose, wife of Alexander Bamvyle; Roger de Venables, parson of Rosthorne in time of Edw I; Amy wife of Hugh de Hatton.
- 5. Sir William de Venables, knight and baron of Kinderton son of Roger, mentioned 1267 and died 1292.
- + 1st wife unknown. They had a daughter Cecily who married Adam the clerk of Allehulme near Brereton.
- + 2nd wife Margaret, dau of Sir Thomas Dutton, Lord of the manor of Dutton, 38 Hen III and a widow in 21 Edw I. This couple had in addition to their heir Sir Hugh, a son Sir William de Venables, to whom his father gave all his lands in Bradwall between 1284 and 1287. He married first Agnes de Legh dau and sole heiress of Richard de Legh of West Hall, High Legh, who was the widow of Richard de Lymme. Her son from her second marriage, John Venables, changed his name to Legh, settled at Booths and gave rise to several branches of the Legh/Leigh family. Sir William married secondly Katherine, widow of Sir Randle Thornton and had two sons, William and Hugh.
- 6. Sir Hugh de Venables, baron of Kinderton, died 4 Edw II.
- + Agatha, dau of Ralph Vernon, baron of Shipbrook, 23 Edw 1. In addition to their two eldest sons William and Hugh the younger, this couple also had Reginald, Roger, John, and daughters Ellen, wife of John son of Sir John Arderne, 1307; Isabel, wife of David Egerton; Elizabeth wife of Richard Done of Utkinton.
- 7. William Venable, was heir and died in or before, 6 Edw 2 and to whom Hugh his brother was heir.
- 7. Sir Hugh de Venables the younger, of Kinderton, a minor in 4 Edw II, heir to his brother William, and died 41 Edw 3.
- + 1st wife, Elizabeth dau of William de Modburlegh (Mobberley)
who had issue William and John
- 8. William de Venables, died before his father, in 1350.
- + 1st wife, Agnes, dau of Sir Peter de Dutton of Warburton, died without issue.
- + 2nd wife, Maude, dau of Ric de Vernon of Shipbrook, 16 Edw III and had issue Maude and Katherine who died in the life of their grandfather.
- 8. John de Venables
- + Isabel, dau of Philip de Egerton and had William who died in the lifetime of his grandfather, Sir Hugh.
- + 2nd wife, Katherine, dau of Richard de Houghton, Lord of Houghton in Lancashire. In addition to Hugh and Roger, shown below, this couple had Thomas de Venables, Richard de Venables, who married Joane dau and heiress of Hamon Fitton of Bollin and had issue; Joane, wife of Sir Thomas Lathom Lord of Lathom in Lancashire and mother of Isabel Lathom, who married Sir John de Stanley
- 8. Hugh de Venables, succeeded his father as baron of Kinderton and was sheriff in 1378, died 6 Ric II.
- + 1st wife Ellen dau of Robert de Iluxlegh and had issue William and Richard who both died without issue.
- + 2nd wife Margery, dau of Hugh de Cotton of Rudheth, 1398.
In addition to sons William and Richard whom we follow below, this couple also had a son Thomas de Venables of Horton in Hartford, 2 Ric II, ancestor of the Venables of Agden and a daughter, Margery wife of Richard Bulkeley of Cheadle and afterwards of Randle Mainwaring of Peover, living 3 Hen IV.
- 9. Sir Richard de Venables, baron of Kinderton, aged 18 on 6 Ric II, taken prisoner at the battle of Shrewsbury and beheaded afterwards in 4 Hen IV, sheriff of Cheshire in 1386.
- + Isabel dau of Rawlin de Langton baron of Newton and Walton in Lancashire, 8 Ric II.
In addition to their heir, Hugh, this couple also had son Henry who after the death of his great nephew was baron of Kinderton in 1460 and settled his estate on William son and heir of Thomas Venables of Goldborne, 3 Edw IV. There was also a daughter, Jonet, wife of Sir Thomas Grosvenor of Hulme in Allostock who died in 1429 and afterwards of Sir Thomas Bothe of Barton.
- 10. Hugh de Venables baron of Kinderton, died 3 Hen V.
- + Cecily, unknown surname who remarried to Ralph Radclyf. In addition to their sons Hugh and Richard and daughter Joane, ther was a daughter, Elizabeth, wife of Adam de Bostok. Her son, Ralph de Bostok was found heir to Hugh Venables along with Rich Coton in 38 Hen 6 and whose dau and heir Ann married Sir John Savage of Clifton, living in the time of Henry VII.
- 11. Hugh de Venables aged 9 in 2 Hen V, died 28 Hen VI. He married Parnell dau of Sir Piers Dutton of Dutton but had no issue.
- 11. Richard de Venables, 2nd son,
- + Elizzabeth, dau of Sir John de Radclyf, Lord of Ordeshale near Manchester. She later married Geoffrey Starkey of Northwich.
- 12. Sir Hugh de Venables, knight, baron of Kinderon, heir to his uncle, Hugh and aged 12 in 28 Hen VI. Married Elizabeth, dau of William Troutbeck and was killed at the Battle of Blore Heath, serving under Lord Audley for Henry VI in 38 Hen VI. He had no issue
- 11. Joane de Venables
- + Ric. de Coton of Coton and Ridware in Staffordshire
- 12. Richard de Coton, found heir to his cousin Hugh Venables along with Ralph Bostok.
- + wife may be Margaret Clerk.
- 13. Richard Cotton
- + Joan dau of Sir William Brereton.
- 14. Elinor dau. of Richard, son of Richard, son of Joan de Venables, married Sir William Venables below in generation 13.
- 9. William Venables, 3rd son, constable of Chester Castle, 5 Hen IV, had a grant of the fee of Goldborne and Moston, was baron of Kinderton by grant of Henry IV on his brother's attainder but settled the barony on his nephew, Hugh, son of Sir Richard. Was with Henry IV in South Wales during Glendower's insurrection.
- + Blanche, surname unknown. This couple, in addition to their heir, Thomas, had sons William Venables of Ridley, Piers and John.
- 10. Thomas de Venables of Chester, heir 16 Hen VI.
- + Margery, dau of Sir William Stanley of Hooton in Chester
- 11. William de Venables of Goldborne and Kinderton, son and heir of Thomas, had the barony and lands of Kinderton settled on him by Henry Venables, 3 Edw IV, see emboldened above. He was a prisoner in Chester Castle 1-2 Edw IV, died 8 Hen VII. He married twice but there was no issue from his second wife, Katherine, dau and coheiress of Robert Grosvernor of Hulme and widow of Richard Wynynton.
- + 1st wife Petronili or Parnell, dau and heiress of Sir Piers Caverswall
- 12. Thomas Venables of Goldburne and Kinderton, aged 26 in 10 Hen VII, was slain at the battle of Flodden Field in 1513.
- + Cicely dau of John Stanley of Weever. In 1514 she and her son Willliam granted to Sir Richard Grosvenor the office of seneschal of Kynderton. Thomas and Cicely had in addition to their son William a daughter, Isabel who married Geoffrey son and heir of Peter Shakerley of Allostock in 8 Hen VIII and later Tho: Lyversiche of Wheelock.
- 13.Sir Thomas Venables, baron of Kinderton, sheriff of Cheshire in 1526, aged 22 in 5 Hen VIII, died 32 Hen VIII. He married first his distant cousin Elinor. His second wife was Katherine, dau of Robert Grosvenor and widow of Thomas Hough of Leighton in Wirral. She died in the reign of Queen Mary. With his second wife he had a son Antony and three daughters, Katherine, Elizabeth and Margaret.
- + Elinor dau of Ric Cotton, and great granddaughterJoan Venables. She was co-heiress of he brother Thomas Cotton. She was 28 in 9 Hen VIII. In addition to their heir Thomas, they had sons; John who had a son Thomas; Hugh; Robert; and William and a daughter Cecily.
- 14. Sir Thomas Venables baron of Kinderton, knighted at Leith in Scotland in 1544, aged 27 in 32 Hen VIII, died 22 Eliz I.
- + Maude, dau of Sir Robert Nedham of Shenton in Shropshire, 10 Hen VIII. This couple had in addition to their son Thomas: Anthony, who married Ann, dau of Randle Brereton of Wetenhall; James who died without issue, Katherine who married Peter Legh son of Sir Piers Legh of Lyme; Elinour who married Henry son and heir of Randle Mainwaring of Carincham; Agnes who married Robert Collyer of Darlaston in Staffordshire.
- 15. Thomas Venables, baron of Kinderton, aged 38 in 23 Eliz I, bought out the right of of William Venables of Agden to the barony of Kinderton in 30 Eliz I and died in 1606.
- + 1st wife, Elizabeth, dau of Sir William Brereton of Brereton 6 Edw 6 and died 1591 and buried at Middlewich.
- 16. Thomas, 1st son, died without issue before his father amd buried at Handley 13 Oct 1572
- 16. Elizabeth wife of Sir Thomas Egerton son and heir of Thos Egerton, Lord Ellesmere, Lord Chancellor of England.
- 16. Mary wife of Richard Assheton of Middleton Lancashire.
- + 2nd wife, Anne, dau of Sir Cotton Gargreave of Nostoll, Yorkshire, married 41 Eliz I. She remarried Sir Edward Bushell.
- 16. Charles Venables, 2nd son, born 2 Feb 43 Eliz I, died an infant.
- 16. Mary Venables, wife of Homphrey Mackworth of Betton Grange in Shropshire.
- 16. Peter Venables, 3rd son, and heir, baron of Kinderton, aged 2 in 4 Jac I and sheriff in 1634, died 13 Nov 1669. He married twice.
- +1st wife, Mary, dau of Sir Richard Wilbraham of Woodhey.
- 17. Thomas Venables, son and heir apparent died before his father.
- + Grace dau of Sir John Fenwick of Wallington in Northumberland, who remarried to Richard Sneyd, younger brother of Ralph Sneyd of Keele, Staffs.
In addition to their son Peter they had three sons and three daughters who died young.
- 18. Peter Venables, baron of Kinderton, son and heir, died 19 Jan 1679 and buried at Middlewich.
- + Katherine, dau of Sir Robert Shirley of Stanton Harold in Leicestershire, baronet, married in June 1671 and died aged 64 on 6 July 1717 buried Middlewich. This couple had two daughters, Catherine, wife of Robert Earl Ferrers died without issue before her father and Anne, born 7 May 1674 married 22 Sep 1687 to Montague son of James Earl of Abingdon.
- 18. Mary Venables, living 1666
- + Thomas Pigot of Chetwynd in Shropshire. They had a daughter Ann who married Henry Vernon of Sudbury in Derbshire and had as their heir George Venables Vernon of Sudbury, born 9 Feb 1709/10 and took the name and arms of Venables pursuant to the will of Peter Venables on 3 Sept 1728. He was created Lord Vernon, Baron of Kinderton by letters patent on 12 May 1762 and died in 1780
- +2nd wife of Peter Venables was Frances youngest sister of Sir Robert Cholmondeley of Cholmondeley, baronet, later Lord Cholmondeley and Earl of Leinster.
- 17. Gilbert Venables, died young
- 17. Robert Venables, married Elizabeth, widow of John Legh of Booths and dau of Thomas Stanley of Alderley, living in 1666.**
- 17. Peter Venables, died young
- 17. William Venables living in 1666**
- 17. Frances Venables, died young
- 17. Anne, wife of Francis Fowler of Harnedge Grange in Shropshire who assumed the name of Leveson, on acceding to Sir Richard Leveson's esates. They had three sons who died in infancy and a daugjter who married 1st Thomas Needham, Viscount Kilmorey on 8 May 1690 then second Theophilus Hastings, Earl of Huntingdon and 3rd Mich de Ligondes of Auvergne, France.
- 8. Roger de Venables
- + Elizabeth, widow of Sir Randle le Roter of Kingsley (died 37-38 Edw. 3) and dau and heiress of Sir William Goldborne.
- 9. Hugh de Venables, died without issue settling his estates of William Venables of Kinderton in 10 Henry V.
- + Emma, dau of Nicholas Warren of Poynton and his wife Emma.
- 2. Hamond de Venables, grantee of lands in Wincham and of his brother Michael's lands in Marston. Had issue
- 2. Gilbert de Venables
- 2. Michael de Venables of Marston, known as a witness to grant from Sir Willliam to his sister Amabil in 1156 and to his brother Hugh 1188.
- 2. R.... de Venables, known as a witness in 1188.
- 2. Hugh de Venables, parson of Eccleston, Astbury and Rosthorne
- 2. Maud de Venables, married Ralph son of Roger de Shireburne and had two daughters, Maud and Emma.
- 2. Amabil de Venables, married Rich de Davenport to whom her brother William gave half of Merton in 1156.
**Note in generation 17 that Ormerod relies entirely on Sir Peter Leicester's accounts for these children and has no information beyond 1666. That the barony of Kinderton eventually went to a Vernon suggests that there were no male heirs arising from these two individuals.
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