TWO THORNBER FAMILIES IN BURNLEY, LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND
1. A THORNBER
FAMILY IN BURNLEY WITH ORIGINS IN GISBURN, YORKSHIRE, ENGLAND
A Lancashire Family Inheritance, by Frank Thistlethwaite, was
published in 1996 (ISBN 095282860X). It describes the Thornber families
of Burnley descended from Benjamin Thornber who was born in Gisburn in 1800.
Benjamin is mentioned in one of the families in Gisburn. Benjamin Thornber and his family
lived in Rimington near Gisburn before moving to Burnley and are shown at Rimington
in the 1851 census.
In Frank Thistlethwaite's book, a family tree
is shown giving the ancestors of Benjamin Thornber and this fits with work done
by others researching Thornber families in Gisburn. There
is one error in the book. As a result of transcribing the registers of
Houghton Chapel, Tosside, and obtaining copies of three wills, I have proved
that the William Thornber who married Ann Procter in 1790 was not the son of
Thomas Thornber and Jennet Tattersall. He was the son of Ralph Thornber
and Elizabeth Beecroft and was baptised in 1749. William's will mentions
a daughter Agnes (from his first wife Mary Downham) and he is known to have
had a son called Ralph. Agnes is also mentioned in the will of her grandfather,
Ralph Thornber. See the section on Thornber
Families in Slaidburn and Gisburn Forest.
Most of the information given below is taken
from Frank Thistlethwaite's book. Documentary sources are not quoted in
the book but some of the information was obtained from a family bible.
In the few cases where I have additional information from my own research, this
is added in square brackets. Edward Mark Thornber in Cornwall has
provided me with some additional information about the families of Edward Sharp
Thornber and two of his brothers, William and Ben. Full birth dates, even when
known, are not shown for more recent generations.
In addition I am grateful to Molly Haines for
bringing to my attention "Who was Who in Burnley" published by the
Burnley and District Historical Society in 1997. This contains short biographies
of Benjamin Thornber, his sons Caleb and Thomas, and his grandsons John, Sharp
and Luke. Some dates in the tree below have been taken from this source.
Sharp and Luke had a brother James Thornber who set up a cotton manufacturing
business at Holme Mill in Clitheroe. James wrote "Burnley Worthies",
which includes details of some of the family members. John Titus Thornber of
Cliviger provided me with the details of his descent by direct line through
the eldest sons from Benjamin Thornber.
The information on Benjamin Thornber's son Thomas
and his family comes from David Thornber in Kinross. Thomas and his family
have been found in the census of 1881. Some of the information on Lucy Thornber,
daugther of Thomas Thornber comes from Margaret Cogdell, nee Lancaster, living
in California.
I have taken the information on Caleb Thornber's
family from the 1881 census.
At the end of this tree I show census data I
abstracted on the family for 1851 and details of a monumental inscription at
St. Mary's Church, Gisburn which are recorded in a book of inscriptions held
at Clitheroe Library. It was prepared by the Upper Ribble Valley branch
of the Lancashire Family History and Heraldry Society.
I am grateful to Helen Hagerty for information on the family of William Thornber in generation 4 below. He is the son of Sharp Thornber. In addition I have been in contact with Helen's cousin, Anne Thornber, the daughter of Hugh in generation 5, the son of William and she has provided some dates on that family.
Abbreviations
MI Monumental Inscription.
BC Birth Certificate
- 1.
Benjamin Thornber, bapt. 20 July 1800, Gisburn;
died 1885, Burnley; [buried 28 March 1885 aged 84 at Gisburn. The MI
says he died in 1886 aged 85]
- +
Margaret Duckworth, marr. 29 Sept 1828, Gisburn; born 1810, Newby,
[died 8 May 1888, Burnley and buried on 11 May 1888, aged 77 at Gisburn. The
MI says she was 79. Margaret Thornber left a will and the executors were her
son Thomas of Hollins near Burnley and her grandson Sharp Thornber. She died
at 66 Devonshire Road, Burnley]
- 2.
Luke, 1829- [died 4 September 1866, buried 6 September 1866 aged 37 at
Gisburn, Will].
- +
Alice, known from Luke's will. The only marriage of a Luke before
1856 was in the September quarter of 1854 at Burnley, Ref. 8e 235. Luke
Thornber son of Benjamin married Alice Pomfret, dau. of Lawrence at Habergham
Eaves on 5 July 1854 (Vital Records Index).
- 3.
John 1856-1922, Alderman in Burnley.
- 4.
Benjamin Thornber, died 1982
- +
Elizabeth Gaukroger the dau. of Titus Gaukroger who died
in 1932.
- 2.
Jane, born 1830; died in infancy.
- 2.
John, [bapt. 28 Aug 1831, Clitheroe Wesleyan Methodist]; died in infancy.
[A John Thornber of Rimington, aged 3, was buried at Gisburn 1 July 1835.]
- 2.
James, [bapt. 29 Dec 1833, Clitheroe Wesleyan Methodist]; died 1899, Burnley.
- +
Ann Sharp, marr. 13 June 1858, Burnley: born 1832, Colne; died 1906, Burnley.
- 3. Sharp, 1858-1933 (Cotton Manufacturer, Alderman and J.P.) Baptised
at Burnley Salem Chapel 27 July 1858.
- +
Florence Nightingale, marr. 1883; born 1859, Burnley; died 1917, Burnley.
- 4.
Thomas, 1884-1964.
- 4.
Edward Sharp, 1886-1968.
- +
Sally Anne Hargreaves
- 5.
Elizabeth Margaret Thornber, born c. 1913, married A. N. Smith,
and died about 1987 in Bermuda.
- 5.
Edward (Earnest?) Norman Thornber (1918-1992)
- +
N. E. Bevan
- 6.
Edward Mark Thornber
- +
V. A. Mace.
- 7.
Edward Joseph Thornber
- 7.
David Richard Thornber
- 7.
Adam Thomas Thornber
- 4.
Benjamin, 1882-1975. (Emigrated to Canada but visited UK in 1968) Was married to Ada ?
- Robin Thornber (son of Benjamin's third wife)
- 4.
William, 1889-1968. Buried at Burnley Cemetery together with his wife.
+ Agnes Murtagh, married 6 Feb 1915 at St. Mary's Burnley. Witnesses were William Nightingale and Agnes Hirst. Agnes was born 5 March 1889 at 124, James Street, Burnley the daughter of Hugh Murtagh, master jeweller
and Bridget formerly Mullin. Agnes died 3 Feb 1966 at 2 Clevelands Mount in Burnley.
- 5. Florence Thornber born 14 July 1916 at 170 Brunshaw Road Burnley (father was said to be missing presumed dead on the BC but was actually among the wounded at the Battle of the Somme. Florence died in Feb 1991 and is buried at Whalley & Wiswell Cemetery.
+ Arnold Thomas Hagerty, married in March 1954 at Holy Trinity Catholic Church, Nelson. He was a Chief Engineer in the Merchant Navy. He was born in 1921 and died in 2006. This couple are the parents of my informant, Helen Mary Hagerty, who was their only child.
- 5. Mary Thornber died April 1976
- 5. Hugh Thornber, died 1991
- + Barbara Cash, married 1954
- 6. Anne Thornber
- 6. Adrian Thornber
- 5. Geoffrey Thornber
+ Valerie Senegal
- 4.
Florence Nightingale Thornber, 1892-1983
- +
Lee Thistlethwaite, marr. 1934; born 1885; died 1973.
- 5.
Frank Thistlethwaite died on the 17th of Feb. 2003,
aged 87.
- +
Jane Hosford, 1918-1992
- 5.
Richard Thistlethwaite, 1917-1984
- 3.
Benjamin, born 1860; died in infancy. [Benjamin Thornber of Burnley,
aged 3 weeks, was buried at Gisburn on 21 June 1860]
- 3.
Margaret Ellen, born 1861; died in infancy.
- 3.
Ada, born 1863; died in infancy.
- 3.
Amy and Albert, twins born 1865; died in infancy. [Albert Thornber
of Burnley buried Gisburn aged 6 weeks on 25 March 1865. Amy
Thornber of Burnley buried Gisburn aged 4 months on 15 June 1865]
- 3.
James, 1866 to 1942 author of "Burnley
Worthies"
- 3.
Luke, 1868-1935 (Alderman).
- 2.
John, [bapt. 29 Nov 1835, Clitheroe Wesleyan Methodist]; died in infancy
[ A John Thornber of Rimington was buried at Gisburn on 9 July 1837, aged
1. Death Certificate shows he died on 7 July 1837 at Rimington, aged 1,
of measles. The father's name was not given but the occupation was shown
as weaver. The informant was John Duckworth, uncle, a weaver.]
- 2.
Martha, born 1837. In the 1881 census Martha appears with her parents
Benjamin
- and Margaret with the name of Martha
Stevenson with two sons, Ephraim and Albert.
- 2.
Benjamin, 1839, [died 5 October 1882, buried 9 October 1882,
aged 44, at Gisburn, Will]
- +
Sarah Ann
- 2.
Caleb, 1842-1923. He was a cotton spinning manufacturer,
was Mayor of Burnley and a local benefactor. (There is only one reference
in the GRO index of births for a Caleb and it was at Clitheroe in the
June Quarter of 1843.)
- +
Martha Ingham dau. of William Ingham at Habergham Eaves on 13 December
1866. She was born c. 1840/41 at Barrowford (Census of 1881). Martha wife of Caleb Thornber of Park Hill, Burnley, aged 73 was buried at Wheatley Lane Inghamite Chapel on 8 April 1914 in vault, section 2, number 247.
- 3. Mary Jane, born c. 1868/9, Burnley. Mary Jane, d. Caleb & Martha Thornber of Burnley, buried at Wheatley Lane Inghamite Chapel aged 2 on 2 August 1872.
- 3. Mary Jane Thornber There must have been a second daughter called Mary Jane. I am grateful to David Baxter for pointing out from the Lancashire BMD that Mary Jane Thornber married George Herbert Grey in 1892 in the Burnley Registration district. There are records for the burials of George Herbert Grey and Mary Jane Grey at Wheatley Lane Inghamite Chapel on 6 Dec 1946 and 1 July 1938 respectively. There is also a burial record at Wheatley Lane for Caleb Thornber Grey, son of George Herbert and May Jane Grey of 59 Colne Road, Burnley, aged 6 months on 12 April 1894 in Caleb Thornber's vault.
- 3. Margaret aged 1 is shown in the 1871 Census (Ref 4149 folio 130 schedule 113. Information from Gilly Cox
)
- 3. Thomas H. s. Caleb & Martha Thornber buried Wheatley Lane Inghamite Chapel, on 18 February 1873 aged 13 months.
- 3. Benjamin, born c. 1873/4, Burnley. Benjamin son of Caleb and Martha Thornber, of 24 Holme View, Burnley buried Wheatley Lane Inghamite Chapel, aged 8 on 1 February 1882 in 2nd section, Caleb Thornber's vault.
- 3. William Ewart, born c. 1876/7, Burnley
- 3. Annie, born c. 1877/8, Burnley.
- 2.
Jane, born 1844 [bapt. 2 Feb 1845, Gisburn]; died 1891. Information from Kath Beattie: Jane married Thomas Varley (1841-1916) of Habergham Eaves. Marriage date not known but together at 1871 census. Two sons were Granville Varley (1879-1954) and Benjamin Thornber Varley (13 March 1885-12 March 1959). Granville married Bertha ? in December 1909 and had no surviving children. Benjamin Thornber Varley married Ada Earnshaw in December 1907 and they had one daughter, Alice Margaret Varley (23 April 1912 - 14 Oct 2005) the mother of Kath Beattie.
- 2.
Thomas, born 29 December 1846 in Rimmington and died 26 May 1915. He was
the Mayor of Burnley and made a freeman of the town. Family of Thomas
with his wife Agnes and children John Fred and Annie shown in 1881 census
of Burnley when Thomas said to be 34 and Agnes 30. (PRO Ref RG11 piece
4151, folio 15 page 23 at 14 Matthew Street, Habergham Eaves, Lancashire.
- +
Agnes Emmett, born Barrowford, 1850 and died 18 October 1910
- 3.
John born Burnley, 1 June 1874, died 1952.
- +
Ellen Miller, 1884-1949. They had 4 children
- 3.
Benjamin Thomas, born 1875, died in infancy.
- 3.
Fred, born 14 March 1878, Burnley, died 7 September 1936.
- +
Florence Clegg, born 20 July 1878, died 31 January 1976.
They had 4 children.
- 3.
Annie, born 24 February 1880.
- +
Edward Grey, born 9 August 1869. The couple had two children.
- 3.
Ada, born 14 May 1882, married Richard Thomas Holdsworth. (Information
from John Utley)
- +
Richard Thomas Holdsworth, born 13 February 1875, died 18 March
1931. The couple had two children.
- 3.
Margaret, born 24 April 1884, died 18 March 1962.
- +
Charles Lancaster, born 19 September 1882, died 1960. They had
one child.
- 3.
Lucy, born 22 April 1886.
- +
Alfred Lancaster, born 26 November 1886, Habergham Eaves, son of Alfred
Lancaster and Mary Ann Hargreaves. He died 1951. They had two
children, Alfred Lancaster, born 11 November 1911, died 4 December
1990 and Lucy, born February 1921, died October 1991.
- 3.
Tom, born 5 May 1888, died 11 May 1916
- +
Elsie Hargreaves, died 9 December 1975. They had one child.
- 3.
Agnes, born 10 May 1889, died 1975
- 3.
Percy, born 28 May 1891, died 1984.
- +
Elizabeth Barritt, born 29 February 1888, died 7 November 1969.
The couple had three children including David Thornber who gave me
the information on the children of Thomas and Agnes Thornber.
- 3.
James, born 28 November 1892, died 16 April 1932.
- +
Mollie Sumner. No issue from this couple.
- 2.
Betty, born 1848, [died 13 November 1856, aged 7, MI, Betty
Thornber of Burnley, aged 7, buried at Gisburn on 16 November 1856]
- 2.
Joseph, 1851; died in infancy. [Joseph Thornber of Burnley, aged 2, was
buried at Gisburn on 31 May 1853
- 2.
Margaret Ellen, 1853-1928.
Census of 1851 at Rimington Lower Gills (reference HO 107/2255, folio 8).
At this time the family lived in Rimington,
which is near Gisburn and six of the children were at home.
| Benjamin Thornber |
head |
50 |
weaver |
Born Gisburn |
| Margaret Thornber |
wife |
40 |
weaver |
Rimington, Yorks |
| Martha |
dau |
13 |
weaver |
ditto |
| Benjamin |
son |
11 |
|
ditto |
| Caleb |
son |
8 |
|
ditto |
| Jane |
dau |
6 |
|
ditto |
| Thomas |
son |
4 |
|
ditto |
| Beth |
dau |
2 |
|
ditto |
The family had several children who died in infancy as shown by the following
monumental inscription at Gisburn St. Mary's. The dates for Benjamin on
the inscription do not agree with those in the parish burial register and I
assume that the latter gives the correct information.
Monumental Inscriptions at St. Mary's Gisburn
Side 1
Benjamin Thornber of Burnley died
23 March 1886 aged 85
Margaret his relict died 8 May 1888 aged 79
Also Luke their son died 4 September 1866 aged 37
Also Betty their daughter died 13 November 1856 aged 7.
There is no corresponding burial for the first death above. The burial
register says Benjamin Thornber of Burnley was buried on 28 March 1885 aged
84. Margaret his wife was buried at Gisburn on 11 May 1888 and said to be 77.)
Side 2
John, Jane, John and Joseph, children of Benjamin and Margaret Thornber
who died
in infancy. Side 3 Benjamin son of Benjamin and Margaret
Thornber, died 5 October 1882 aged 44
Also Sarah Ann his relict died 20 October 1899 aged 57.
The Manchester Royal Exchange Directory for 1905 shows that Benjamin Thornber
and Sons Ltd., of 56 Faulkner Street, cotton spinners and manufacturers had
three spaces allocated to them at location 15A. The names or initials given
were John, W.E. and F. There was also an allocation to William Thornber of Thornber
Sons and Co. of Green Lane Chemical Works, Padiham, marine and crystal sizes,
calico printers' finishes.
2. A SECOND THORNBER FAMILY IN BURNLEY
Part of the following family tree was sent to me by Malcolm Walker in South
Australia. I have added some additional dates where I have
these from my own work and extended the tree from census data and from marriage
and burial records at Burnley St. Peter's. Thomas Thornber is identified
as the son of Robert Thornber on the grounds that the age of 51, given in the
census of 1841, suggests birth in 1789/90. The age given at his burial suggests
birth in c. 1787. In addition Thomas uses the names Robert and Grace for
his children as well as William and Shackleton, two names used by Robert and
Grace. The identity of Robert Thornber is not clear at this stage
but there is a record in the registers of Burnley St. Peter's of a Robert Thornbour,
son of William, on 20 May 1764 and this looks the most likely candidate so far.
A William Thornbour married Susan Roberts, both of Filly Close, by banns on
2 November 1761, at Burnley St. Peter's with witnesses Josiah Nuttall &
Jonathan Ingham. This William seems a good candidate for the father of Robert.
William Thornbour also had a daughter Jenny baptised 20 May 1754 at Burnley
St. Peters.
Another Robert who has emerged recently was
the son of Thomas Thornber of Sabden and was baptised at Newchurch in Pendle
on 5 July 1741. He is clearly too old to be the one in the tree below but as
Robert is not a common name among the Thornbers, he may be related to this group.
Thomas This Robert had a brother, called William, baptised on 31 July 1736 who
is old enough to be the William who married in 1761. If this is the correct
William then the sequence would make Robert Thornber who married Grace Shackeleton
named after his uncle Robert. He in turn would have named his eldest son Thomas
after his own grandfather.
Robert and Grace called a son Shackleton Thornber.
I have had extensive correpondence with Dennis Whitehead in Canada on this subject.
Why would Robert and Grace call a son Shackleton and but have no son called
Pollard? Normally one would expect Shackelton to be a clue to a mother's or
grandmother's surname but so far no connection has been made. The only possible
Shackleton connection for a Thornber in this period is the marriage of John
Thornber to Mary Shackleton in Whalley, both of that parish on 25 June 1757,
by banns itpo: Nicholas Isherwood and Robert Isherwood. No children from this
couple have been identified so far. Could it be that Grace Pollard died and
Robert Thornber remarried to Grace Shackleton? At this point all we know is
that a Grace Thornber died aged 75 in 1833 and was buried at St. Peter's in
Burnley. I have checked the burial records at St. Peter's from Jan 1778 to December
1896 and there is no record for another Grace apart from an infant and a woman
of 34 born about 1821 who died in 1855, so it seems likely that the Grace Thornber
who died in 1833 was indeed born Grace Pollard.
In addition I have received information from
Beth Merryweather in New Zealand about Rosanna Thornber, born in 1851, shown
below in bold type. Beth has also identified a likely marriage for Margaret
Thornber to Isaac Smith.
To put parts of the tree on a more secure footing
it would be wise for future researchers to obtain more copies of birth, marriage
and death certificates for the events after 1837 and in some cases the GRO index
reference has been included. However, the information from census returns
allows dates of birth and marriage to be estimated, aiding a more detailed search.
Abbreviations.
C41 information from census of 1841.
- 1. Robert
Thornber of the Parish of Burnley at his marriage. A Robert Thornburgh of
Park Burnley, was buried at Burnley St. Peter's on 18 April 1830, aged 69,
making birth about 1761, which would be consistent with the marriage of William
Thornbour in that year. Given the vagaries of age reporting at this
time, it is possible that Robert was the one baptised at Burnley St. Peter's
on 20 May 1764 son of William Thornbour.
+ Grace Pollard, of Burnley on 25 October
1788, at Burnley St. Peter's by J. Raws, in the presence of James Smith and
Richd. Clough. Grace Thornber of Park, Burnley was buried at St. Peter's
Burnley on 25 Sept 1833, aged 75 indicating birth about 1758.
- 2.
Thomas, bapt. 27 Sept 1789, Burnley St. Peter's. Of New Laund Booth
at marriage. The family with five children has been identified in
the census of 1841. Thomas Thornber, of Lane Bridge, Habergham Eaves,
aged 55, was buried at St Peter's on 9 November 1842. His wife Alice
appears in the 1851 census. Death Certificate states Thomas Thornber,
aged 55, labourer, of Finsley Row, Habergham Eaves, died 4 Nov 1842 of
consumption. The informant was Alice Thornber, present at the death, who
made her mark.
- + Alice
Rigg, of Reedley Hollows, on 30 Mar 1807, at Burnley St. Peter's
- 3.
Robert, bapt. 9 Aug 1807, Burnley St. Peter's,
son of Thomas and Alice,
fullen miller of Reedley Hollows,
buried aged 17 on 17 June 1825 at St. Peter's.
- 3.
Smith, born 13
July, bapt.8 Oct 1808, Burnley St. Peter's son of Thomas and Alice,
fullen miller of Ightenhall park. He is probably the one said
to be of Lane Bridge, Habergham Eaves, buried St. Peter's, aged 29
on 29 March 1839, as no other Smith Thornber is known. Death record
in GRO index for March quarter of 1839.
- 3.
Alice, bapt. 30 Aug 1812, Burnley St. Peter's. Alice, dau. of
Thomas Thornber, boatman and Alice his wife, of Dancer House, was
buried aged 1 on 11 May 1813 at Burnley St. Peters
- 3.
William, bapt. 9 Apr 1815, Burnley St. Peter's, son of Thomas and
Alice, fullen miller of Dancer House. William is shown in the 1851
census for Ramsbottom at Lower Nuttall, (HO 107/2212, folio 92, page
18). He was a (cotton) carder, aged 36, fitting with birth in about
1815, and was born in Burnley. His wife was 45 and born in Bury. The
only child at home was Thomas, aged 2. Note the use of the name Robinson
for one of the sons.
- +
Sarah Whittaker (Her maiden name is
known from the birth certificates of the following three children.).
- 4.
Robinson, born 1 August 1840, at Nuttall, Holcombe
in Bury Registration District. William was
then a jobber. (BC). Robinson probably died in infancy as a death
entry under this name has been found in the GRO index for 3rd
quarter 1840 in Bury (Ref. 21 177)
- 4. Betty,
born 22 September 1841, at Nuttall, Holcombe in Bury District,
(BC). Possibly died in infancy as there is an entry for Betty
in the GRO deaths index for 4th quarter 1841 in Bury (Ref. 21
175)
- 4. Thomas,
born 23 October 1847, at Nutall, Holcomber, in Bury District,
(C51 & BC)
- 3.
Thomas Thornber, infant of Dancer House was buried 19 Feb 1817 at
St. Peter's Burnley and is probably part of this family from the address.
- 3.
Grace, bapt. 22 Jan 1818, Burnley St. Peter's, dau. of Thomas and
Alice, boatman of Habergham Eaves. Grace Thornber of Lane Bridge,
Habergham Eaves, infant, buried 17 Feb 1818 at Burnley St. Peter.
(See Footnote 3.)
- 3.
Sarah, bapt. 22 Jan 1818, Burnley St. Peter's (twins?)
dau. of Thomas and Alice, boatman of Habergham Eaves.
Sarah Thornber, aged 30, of Finsley, Habergham Eaves, was buried at
St. Peter's on 13 April 1848, and the GRO reference has been identified
for Burnley (21 158)
- 3.
Shackleton, bapt. 17 Sept 1820, Burnley St. Peter's, son of Thomas
and Alice, labourer of Lane Bridge, Habergham Eaves. Appears
in the 1851, 1861 and 1881 Burnley census with wife Ann. However,
Dennis Whitehead has found baptism records for Margaret and Thomas
at Burnley on 8 September 1844 with father Shackleton and mother Hannah.
There is a GRO index entry for Mackleton Thornber, presumably a mistranscription
for Shackleton Thornber marrying in Burnley in the June quarter of
1844 (21 152). There is no other marriage of Shackleton before 1851
so Ann and Hannah are probably the same person. Children's details
from census. Shackleton Thornber died 18 Jan. 1897 at Burnley
aged 76, MI at St. Peter's.
- +
Ann Lindley (Hannah from baptism record
of Margaret and Thomas, Ann from census of 1851 and from birth certificate
of William in 1847.) Ann, the wife of Shackleton Thornber, died 26
May 1891 aged 68, MI at St. Peter's.
- 4.
Margaret, born 1843, baptised 8 September 1844. Margaret
Thornber, aged 25, daughter of Shackleton Thornber married Henry
Wilkinson aged 26, son of Leonard Wilkinson on 21 May 1868 at
Habergham Eaves (information from Dennis Whitehead)
- 4.
Thomas, baptised 8 September 1844, died 1 Nov. 1853, said to be
in 10th year of his age, i.e. 9 on monumental inscription at Burnley
St. Peter's.
- 4. William
Thornber, son of Shackelton Thornber, steam engineer, and Ann
Thornber formerly Lindley, born 19 February 1847 at Lanebridge,
Habergham Eaves. (Information from Ian Roberts.
- 4.
Alice, born 1848 probably the Alice dau. of Shackleton who married
Alfred William Ashworth, son of Thomas, at Habergham Eaves on
31 August 1870.
- 4.
Sarah Ann, born 1850
- 4.
John, born 1855, died 19 July 1913 aged 58, MI at St. Peter's,
Burnley
- 4.
William, born 1858, indicating that the first William had died
- 4.
Arthur L, born 1864
- 3.
Parker, bapt. 16 Mar 1823, Burnley St. Peter's, son
of Thomas and Alice, labourer of Lane Bridge, Habergham Eaves.
Appears in the 1851, 1861 and 1881 Burnley census with his wife Mary.
Children's details from census returns. In the GRO marriage
index there is a single reference to Parker Thornber in the September
quarter of 1849 at Burnley. Parker Thornber died at Burnley in 1890
aged 67.
- +
Mary
- 4.
Ellen, born 1851 (died in infancy? She is not in 1861 census)
- 4.
Thomas, born 1852
- 4.
George, born 1855
- 4.
Alice, born 1857. Alice aged 34, dau. of Parker Thornber married
William Thornton, aged 38, son of Richard Thornton at Habergham
Eaves on 19 December 1891.
- 4.
Mary Jane, born 1859
- 3.
Margaret, born about 1827, known from 1841 census and from the 1851
census at Habergham Eaves, where she was living with her widowed mother,
Alice, her younger brother Robinson and an infant called Rosanna.
Rosanna was Margaret's daughter, born 19 May 1850 (BC). A Margaret
Thornber aged 28, spinster, of Thorney Bank, Habergham Eaves, daughter
of Thomas Thornber, a quarrier, was married to Isaac Smith, bachelor
and labourer, of Wood Top, Habergham Eaves, son of Richard Smith,
pipe maker, on 10 April 1855 at Trinity Church, Habergham Eaves (MC).
The age for Margaret and the name of her father is a good indication
that this is the correct person.
- 4.
Rosanna Thornber born 19 May 1850, married Thomas Burrell 12 Nov
1870 at St. James Burnley (MC) and died in Colne on 27 April 1913,
aged 62 (DC). (Certificates for Margaret and Rosanna obtained
by Beth Merryweather in NZ.)
- 3.
Robert? There is possibly of a second son called Robert here
after the death of the first Robert in 1825. There is a burial
entry for Robert Thornber of Lanebridge, Habergham Eaves, aged 2 on
8 August 1830, at Burnley St. Peter's.
- 3.
Robinson bapt. 3 Jun 1832, Burnley St. Peter's,
son of Thomas and Alice, labourer of Lane Bridge, Habergham Eaves.
He appears in the 1861 census as an engine driver at a cotton mill
with his wife and two children. In 1881 the five youngest were
still at home. Birth years estimated from census. Robinson
died 13th October 1899 at 56 Tentre Street, Burnley aged 67.
He was at the time of his death a Cotton Mill Engine Tenter and his
son William Thornber of 21 Kirkgate Burnley reported the death. (from
Death Cert. obtained by Malcolm Walker)
- +
Nancy Cornforth of Colne at Trinity Church, Habergham Eaves on 16
October 1852. Robinson was then an Engine Driver aged 21, son of Thomas
Thornber a Quarry Mason. Nancy was a weaver aged 20 the daughter
of John Cornforth a Twirler at a Cotton Mill (Marriage certificate
obtained by Malcolm Walker). Nancy died in 1903, aged 70, in Burnley.
The birth of a Robinson Thornber was registered at Burnley in the
December quarter of 1852, Reference 8e 230; this may have been this
couple's first child and died in infancy.
- 4.
Mary Ann, born c. 1854 (died in infancy?)
- 4.
Alice born c. 1857, died 14 April 1860, aged
3, at Trinity Street, Habergham Eaves, dau. of Robinson, and engine
tenter. Informant was Nancy Thornber. (Death Cert.)
- 4.
Robinson, 1859. Appears in 1881 Burnley census, aged 22,
an engineer with his wife
Margaret aged 24.
- 4.
Elizabeth, 1862
- 4.
Sarah Emma, 1869
- 4.
Martha, 1872
- 4.
William, 1874
- 4.
Rebecca, 1875, born Reedley Hallows, Burnley.
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Robert Walker. (The information on the children of Robert
Walker was provided by Malcolm Walker)
- 5.
Benjamin Robinson Walker, born 1893, died in infancy.
- 5.
Mary Alice Walker, died in infancy.
- 5.
Annie Walker, born 1895, Burnley and died 1905.
- 5.
Wilfred Walker, born 1897, Burnley, killed in the Greath War
on 9 Aug 1918, at Ypres.
- 5.
Robinson Walker, born 1899, Burnley.
- 5.
Clara Walker, born 1902, Burnley.
- 5.
Elsie Walker, born 1904, Haslingden.
- 5.
Samuel Walker, 1905, Haslingden (Malcolm Walker's father)
- 5.
Ada, born 1911, Blackburn.
- 2.
Betty, bapt. 25 Sept 1791, Burnley St. Peter's. Betty d. of Robert
& Grace Thornber of Burnley buried at Burnley St. Peter's on 22 Mar
1792.
- 2.
William Thornberg son of Robert and Grace, bapt. 24 June 1793,
Burnley St. Peter's. Possibly the William buried at Burnley St.
Peter's aged 57 on 26 March 1851, for whom a burial record has been found
under the name of William Thornber in the GRO index for March quarter
of 1851. (See footnote 4.)
- 2.
Mally bapt. 28 June 1795, Burnley St. Peter's. Molly daughter of Robert
& Grace Thornber of Filly Close buried at Burnley St. Peter's on 11
Aug 1796.
- 2.
Shackleton, bapt. 15 Oct 1797, Burnley St. Peter's
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Mearcy Smith on 19 May 1817 at St. Bartholomew's, Colne. There is a MI
for Haggate & Hill Lane Baptist, Briercliffe mentioning
Elizabeth, wife of William Thornber, July 17th 1862 aged 36 yrs and Mercy,
wife of Shackleton Thornber, who died May 4th 1864, aged 74 yrs and
William Thornber, died Feb 20th 1907 aged 81yrs. (Information from Dennis
Whitehead see footnote 2.)
- 3.
Robert, born 1817-1821, C41
- 3.
Margaret, born 1817-1821, C41
- 3.
William, born 1822-1826, C41
- 2.
Robert, bapt. 5 April 1801, Burnley St. Peter's, in C81 Burnley, aged
80, unmarried. See note 4.
- 2.
Margaret, bapt. 7 Oct 1804, Burnley St. Peter's. (She may be Margaret
Thornber of Lane Bridge, Habergham Eaves, buried at St. Peter's on 24
June 1834 aged 29. However, there was also a Margaret Thornber,
spinster who married William Procter, bachelor by banns at Burnley St.
Peter's on 25 December 1834 in the presence of James Clough and George
Smith.)
Footnote 1
Monumental Inscription at St. Peter's Burnley, abstracted from the transcription
held at Burnley Library, which was produced by members of the Lancashire Family
History and Heraldry Society.
In memory of Thomas son of Shackelton and Ann Thornber of Burnley who died
1 November 1853 in the 10th year of his age. The Lord gave and the Lord hath
taken away, Blessed be the name of the Lord. Also of Ann, the beloved wife
of Shackelton Thornber who died 26 May 1891 in the 69th year of her age. Also
the above named Shackleton Thornber who died 18 January 1897 in the 77th year
of his age. Also of John Thornber, son of the above named, who died 19 July
1913 in the 59th year of his age.
Footnote 2.
The other occupants of this grave are as follows:
Martha wife of James ACKROYD, May 19 1886 aged 45 yrs
Ann Wife of William THORNBER, June 5 1886 age 53 yrs
James (above) ACKROYD, April 8, 1893 age 63 yrs all of Burnley
Martha Ann wife of John William ASCOUGH, of Burnley Sept 19 1904, age 37 yrs
William (above) THORNBER, Feb 20 1907, age 81 yrs (placing his birth about 1826)
Elizabeth wife of Jonas Halsted, Burnley Lane, Sep 17 1884 age 36 yrs.
The 1841 census shows a poorly legible record with the following information
on film HO 107 506_21, Burnley ED 8, folio 19 page 30. Ages were generally rounded
down to the nearest multiple of five at this census. If Mercy had independent
means she was probably a widow.. A doffer was usually a young person charged
with changing bobbins or pirns on a spinning or winding machine.
| Mercy Thornber |
50 |
Ind |
Not born in County |
| Robert Thornber |
20 |
Cotton Grinder |
Born in County |
| Margaret |
20 |
Cotton Spinner |
Born in County |
| William |
15 |
Cotton Doffer |
Born in County |
The 1881 Census reveals a William Thornber of the right age, married to Ann,
living in Marsden with the following family at 15 Healey Row Habergham Eaves,
Lancashire. PRO Ref RG11 Piece 4150 Folio 18 Page 30
| William Thornber |
married 55 |
head |
cotton packer |
Marsden, Lancashire |
| Ann Thornber |
married, 48 |
wife |
cotton packer's wife |
Hunton, Lancashire |
| Lambert Thornber |
unmarried, 18 |
son |
labourer for coal agent |
Burnley, Lancashire |
| Martha Thornber |
unmarried, 14 |
daughter |
cotton cop winder |
Burnley, Lancashire |
| Mary Thornber |
widow, 64 |
sister-in-law |
chamber servant |
East Marton, Durham |
Footnote 3.
A Grace Thornber of Burnley Lane was buried
at Burnley St. Peter's, aged 34 of Burnley Lane on 17 June 1855, putting her
birth about 1821. She would have been about 20 in the 1841 census and may not
have been living at home at the time. A further search of the census data of
1841 and 1851 may find her.
Footnote 4.
The 1841 Census for Burnley on HO 107/506/22
ED 11 Folio 30 page10 at Jenkin Street shows
| William Thornber |
40 |
Stonemason |
Born in County |
| Elizabeth |
40 |
|
Born in County |
| Robert Thornber |
30 |
Caretaker at Cotton Factory |
Born in County |
Two marriage records for people called William
Thornber are known for Burney St. Peter's before 1837 and from the information
above it seems that we are dealing with first shown below.
William Thornber, mason, bachelor
married Elizabeth x Austin, spinster, both of this chapelry at Burnley St. Peter's,
by banns on 31 October 1831, in the presence of Thomas Austin & James Hey.
William x Thornber, cotton spinner, bachelor & Margaret x Coates,
spinster, both of this chapelry at Burnley St. Peter's, by banns on 6 April
1835, in the presence of George Thompson & Mary x Stuttard.
The presence of Robert Thornber in the same
household is circumstantial evidence that they are related. It is tempting to
think that they are the William and Robert shown in the tree in generation 2
baptised in 1793 and 1801 respectively. The ages were rounded down in the 1841
census so according to this record William was born in the period 1797 to 1801
and Robert between 1807 and 1811. These are serious inconsistencies and it may
be that evidence from the 1851 census would cast further light on their ages
and places of birth.
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